"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
03/05/2019 at 21:35 • Filed to: None
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"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
03/05/2019 at 21:35 • Filed to: None | 2
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I would be a shitty airline executive
Who would’ve thought a flight from Guadalajara to Sacramento would get jam-packed
Ash78, voting early and often
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/05/2019 at 22:08 |
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A good airline does just that — pack every flight. Southwest is amazing at it. I don’t think I’ve been on a Southwest flight in 10 years with more than one open seat.
I sort of miss the good old days, which were just as cheap as today, with free meals, checked bags, and every flight about 75% full.
Stupid “profitability” ideas, who needs those? They ruin everything.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/05/2019 at 23:32 |
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How long you on Sacramento? There is good good food there! I lived there for 14 years.
facw
> Ash78, voting early and often
03/06/2019 at 01:00 |
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Seats were really not as cheap as today:
Obviously fees may make flying more expensive, but domestic ticket prices are as low as they’ve ever been, as long as you adjust for inflation . The dataset DOT provides online only goes back to 1995, but prices were higher still in the 1980s, and much higher in the pre-deregulation period before that. The only place where tickets come close to being as cheap as they are not is in the bad economy of the recession.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
03/06/2019 at 04:44 |
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I left almost immediately after the Turo guy gave me my car...
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Ash78, voting early and often
> facw
03/06/2019 at 09:29 |
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Yep, we have to include fees there — otherwise college wouldn’t look as expensive, either :D
My data is more anecdotal and “window shopping” over 20+ years. For example, here were some of my fares as purchased:
1998, Atlanta to Madrid, summer: $1,300 ($2,007 with inflation)
1999, Atlanta to London, summer: $1,150 ($1,738 today)
2004, Atlanta to London, early fall: $1,000 ($1,332 today)
There are a few more like that, but the overall trend has been “Finding a $500 fare to Europe was extremely rare, if available at all.” Today I see those almost every day, even in the summer. To be fair, all of the above had free checked bags, unlimited alcohol, etc. But no Wifi or individual screens with on-demand stuff, so it’s a mixed bag.
I once scored a $300 RT to Iceland in spring, but spent another $200 just getting to the airport where it was available (BWI).
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facw
> Ash78, voting early and often
03/06/2019 at 09:49 |
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Most of those fees are currently still pretty optional, and the ones that aren’t are fairly cheap.
My data is from here, though it’s only domestic: https://www.transtats.bts.gov/AIRFARES/
The EU does tend to have higher taxes and fees, so it might make those fares higher.
Nevertheless, I think the trend is pretty much ever downward, as consumers have shown themselves to be very price sensitive. And honestly I’m ok with that, as long as upgrades are priced fairly, and we can search for the ones we want on comparison engines.
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Ash78, voting early and often
> facw
03/06/2019 at 09:53 |
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Yep, the main drawback is all the nickel and diming that turn consumers away, even irrationally. Sort of like how 80% of people are better off on a prepaid cell plan, but we prefer to pay a fixed price every month and know what we’re getting. Sometimes variability — even if cheaper — is too much of a hassle to be worth it.
I looked into Frontier pricing the other day and was like “Nope, need a PhD in math to get all this worked out.” Probably fine for a single person with a carry on, but with 4 people and checked bags, the value just wasn’t there.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> Ash78, voting early and often
03/06/2019 at 10:59 |
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Yeah, Aeromexico has become increasingly better at that since the sale